On 5 July 2020, U.S. researcher Joe Murgia, drew our attention to a comment made by Dr. Bob McGwier, on the Facebook page of “Spaced Our Radio” host, Dave Scott. In a reply to another person, commenting about the Wilson/Davis notes, Dr. McGwier said:
“That is not the most interesting thing I’ve read. The most interesting thing I’ve read is contemporaneous mail from Thomas Wilson to someone else confirming the meeting and the content of the meeting BEFORE it was widely distributed…”
I later revisited that same Facebook page and found an additional comment from Dr. McGwier, which read:
“I believe there is sufficient evidence that the meeting was held and I cannot figure out what Eric Davis would get from lying. I lean towards accepting the meeting and the contents which are still unverified because we want the SAPs not just their existence.”
Joe, then provided a transcript of a short Facebook Messenger conversation he had with Dr. McGwier. This included the statement, by McGwier, that he knew Admiral Wilson through the Institute for Defense Analyses. For more information on this Institute please see further down in this blog. His short conversation raised further questions in my mind, so I reached out to Dr. McGwier, myself, and he kindly responded to my queries. With his permission, I provide the questions and answers, for the further information of blog readers.
Q1. Was the communication from Wilson to someone else, an email, a letter or some other form of communication? Which?
Q2. What were the circumstances which allowed you to see this communication?
A2. Happenstance, seredipitous, synchronicity? I was doing work in the intelligence community and a friend been sent the mail. He showed it to me and told me what he thought it meant. I could never forget Admiral Wilson. So this is a personal confidence but did not come from Wilson. I didn’t think about it again until this all blew up again.
Q3. You mentioned to Joe that you thought this was in 2004/2005. However, where specificially were you when you saw the communication?
A3. Inside a USG government facility. The person was concerned that the mail might be classified. It may be.
Q4. At the time what were your thoughts upon seeing the contents of the communication?
A4. At that point in time I was a hard nosed scientist acting regularly as an Engineer/MacGayver in the US government and I thought it was probably crap. I put it out of my mind until recently.
Q5. What can you recall about the contents of the communication?
A5. Wilson was complaining about programs dealing with UFOs and crashes that he didn’t have access to.
Q6. Do you recall who the receipient of the communication was?
A6. Yes. I do recall. That is what I am protecting for the time being.
His LinkedIn profile, provides a great deal of information about his career. I particularly note the following:
* Founder and Technical Adviser of HawkEye 360. September 2015 to the present
* Director of Research, Hume Center and Research Professor of ECE, Virginia Polytechnic . 2011 to the present
* Between 1984 and June 2011 he was a Member of Research Staff at the Center for Communications Research, Princeton, NJ, at the Institute for Defense Analyses where he worked on research for the U.S. Department of Defense.
“The Institute for Defense Analyses (IDA) is a private, nonprofit corporation headquartered in Alexandria, Virginia, just outside Washington DC. IDA’s mission is to answer the most challenging U.S.security and science policy questions with objective analysis leveraging extraordinary scientific, technical and analytic expertise.”